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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

May 29 @ 3:04 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: The Kyle Dubas needle is pointing towards... The Kyle Dubas needle is pointing towards...
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

May 29 @ 3:30 PM ET
You have to think we should know in the next few days. I dont see the Penguins giving him forever to decide, either he wants it or he doesnt.

Friedman mentioned he might want to wait to hear what Ottawa has to say if a new ownership group is chosen. In that case, I think you move on. If he has second thoughts or if we are viewed by him as the back up option, find a different guy who is hungry for the GM job. Either guy Elliote mentioned would be good with me. I'm not as hot on JB as some, but I think you could do a lot worse.

Either way I just want a resolution and decision.
Shynes57
Florida Panthers
Joined: 11.12.2019

May 29 @ 3:51 PM ET
I just dont see what all these teams see in him.... but hey do whatever
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
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I just dont see what all these teams see in him.... but hey do whatever
- Shynes57



Dubas failed to sign his franchise player to a max deal to take him past UFA years and overpaid a free agent despite that player only wanting to play for the Leafs.

Best GM ever
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
You have to think we should know in the next few days. I dont see the Penguins giving him forever to decide, either he wants it or he doesnt.

Friedman mentioned he might want to wait to hear what Ottawa has to say if a new ownership group is chosen. In that case, I think you move on. If he has second thoughts or if we are viewed by him as the back up option, find a different guy who is hungry for the GM job. Either guy Elliote mentioned would be good with me. I'm not as hot on JB as some, but I think you could do a lot worse.

Either way I just want a resolution and decision.

- SuperHenderson13

The draft is a month away too. That's not a lot of time to bring in a President, GM, AGM's, analytics department, scouting department, and establish a full offseason plan. If he isn't sure by Friday I'd have to go in another direction.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

May 29 @ 4:45 PM ET
Dubas failed to sign his franchise player to a max deal to take him past UFA years and overpaid a free agent despite that player wanting to play for the Leafs

Best GM ever

Dubas made some bad moves. But those two arnt great examples. That franchise player had a say in that deal and was dubas gonna face a hold out with their star player? He already proved he’d look out for number one when he went to Europe. And Tavares would have gotten more on the open market.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 29 @ 5:11 PM ET
Dubas failed to sign his franchise player to a max deal to take him past UFA years and overpaid a free agent despite that player wanting to play for the Leafs

Best GM ever

Dubas made some bad moves. But those two arnt great examples. That franchise player had a say in that deal and was dubas gonna face a hold out with their star player? He already proved he’d look out for number one when he went to Europe. And Tavares would have gotten more on the open market.

- ChrisMS


If he can figure out how to bring in nylander
And jettison some trash contracts he’ll have a statue.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 29 @ 5:54 PM ET
Dubas failed to sign his franchise player to a max deal to take him past UFA years and overpaid a free agent despite that player wanting to play for the Leafs

Best GM ever

Dubas made some bad moves. But those two arnt great examples. That franchise player had a say in that deal and was dubas gonna face a hold out with their star player? He already proved he’d look out for number one when he went to Europe. And Tavares would have gotten more on the open market.

- ChrisMS


If Chiarrelli could sign McDavid to a max deal, especially after McDavids expression of dread at the lottery drawing, no reason Dubas couldn't do the same with Matthews

As for Tavares, if he only wanted to play for TO, Dubas should have gotten him to much less, as that's quickly become an albatross.

But hey, he likes charts, so he's a great GM.
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

May 29 @ 5:59 PM ET
YADA YADA YADDA If nobody is right everybody is wrong Be patient and let it play out All of you yenta's are know it alls I guess that is what makes this world bizarre and upside down. No common sense any more Too many libs
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

May 29 @ 6:05 PM ET
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Dubas failed to sign his franchise player to a max deal to take him past UFA years and overpaid a free agent despite that player only wanting to play for the Leafs.

Best GM ever

- jmatchett383


Well our franchise players are locked up and have little money to spend on big FA’s. His biggest blemishes aren’t relevant here .
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 29 @ 6:30 PM ET
Well our franchise players are locked up and have little money to spend on big FA’s. His biggest blemishes aren’t relevant here .
- kfinl170


True. And to his credit, he did make some trades that worked out. I just don't think he's the great messiah some people make him out to be.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 29 @ 6:30 PM ET
YADA YADA YADDA If nobody is right everybody is wrong Be patient and let it play out All of you yenta's are know it alls I guess that is what makes this world bizarre and upside down. No common sense any more Too many libs
- broncohorvath


Words are yes?
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

May 29 @ 6:35 PM ET
If Chiarrelli could sign McDavid to a max deal, especially after McDavids expression of dread at the lottery drawing, no reason Dubas couldn't do the same with Matthews

As for Tavares, if he only wanted to play for TO, Dubas should have gotten him to much less, as that's quickly become an albatross.

But hey, he likes charts, so he's a great GM.

- jmatchett383


I won’t argue he’s a good gm. I don’t think the evidence is there. But I don’t believe for a second he wanted the deal for mathews. I think that only happens if mathews said 5 years or nothing. I don’t think dubas could afford facing a hold out. He took the deal assuming he had 5 years to work it out

And Tavares never said he would only play for Toronto. Just that it was a dream of his. He gave them like a .5-1 mil a year discount. Nothing outrageous. If dubas offers 8 or 9 mil and la offered 12? Pretty sure he takes the 12.

No. Good examples of dubas bungling is “promising “ nylander he wouldn’t trade him and then not trading him or Marner after taveres was acquired to get a better d.
optimus-reim
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 29 @ 6:58 PM ET
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Dubas failed to sign his franchise player to a max deal to take him past UFA years and overpaid a free agent despite that player only wanting to play for the Leafs.

Best GM ever

- jmatchett383



You forgot the 7 years of losing without any changes to the core issue. Pun intended.
optimus-reim
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 29 @ 7:00 PM ET
YADA YADA YADDA If nobody is right everybody is wrong Be patient and let it play out All of you yenta's are know it alls I guess that is what makes this world bizarre and upside down. No common sense any more Too many libs
- broncohorvath



They’re socialists/communists. Liberals and libertarians now identify more with conservative values. Shows you how hardcore the left has become.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 29 @ 7:37 PM ET
YADA YADA YADDA If nobody is right everybody is wrong Be patient and let it play out All of you yenta's are know it alls I guess that is what makes this world bizarre and upside down. No common sense any more Too many libs
- broncohorvath

Take it to 4chan Hannity no one gives a poop on here.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

May 29 @ 7:37 PM ET
True. And to his credit, he did make some trades that worked out. I just don't think he's the great messiah some people make him out to be.
- jmatchett383


Totally fair. To me he isn’t a messiah, but a competent head to lead this team through the last few years they have. And also a 100000x upgrade on the last 2 years.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 29 @ 7:46 PM ET
Totally fair. To me he isn’t a messiah, but a competent head to lead this team through the last few years they have. And also a 100000x upgrade on the last 2 years.
- kfinl170


Competent for sure. But not an infallible genius, either.
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

May 29 @ 8:11 PM ET
They’re socialists/communists. Liberals and libertarians now identify more with conservative values. Shows you how hardcore the left has become.
- optimus-reim

Libs have no conservative values Spend Spend Spend Easy to spend someone elses money You have to run it like a business and we just do not do that We are a give away nation and could care less about our own citizens Care more about illegals
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

May 29 @ 8:13 PM ET
Take it to 4chan Hannity no one gives a poop on here.
- burgh4life87

Your attitude is why this country is headed in the wrong direction Just like you nobody gives a shatt
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

May 29 @ 8:19 PM ET
Anyone looks rosie in comparison to the last guy.
abcpens10
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.21.2018

May 29 @ 8:42 PM ET
Maybe Jamie been was the problem
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 29 @ 8:43 PM ET
Your attitude is why this country is headed in the wrong direction Just like you nobody gives a shatt
- broncohorvath

Pathetic lonely little man. Go talk to a real person instead of female doging about your lame politics on here.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 29 @ 8:50 PM ET
Competent for sure. But not an infallible genius, either.
- jmatchett383


I don't think anybody around here thinks that. I don't think any of the local sports guys thinks he's necessarily a good hire. I've mostly heard "what's he ever won?"

I didn't want a fossil and I'd be a little concerned with a first timer considering the coach wields so much power. Dubas is probably the best they can get all things considered. If it took a lot of convincing and a boat load of cash, I'd prefer they look elsewhere however.
optimus-reim
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 29 @ 9:18 PM ET
Pathetic lonely little man. Go talk to a real person instead of female doging about your lame politics on here.
- burgh4life87




What does it matter to you? Dafuq no one even asked you 😆😆😆
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